• @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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    a bit strange but I don’t really see the problem tbh. Are these references I’m not getting? I recognize joker and thanos.

    • @474D@lemmy.world
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      The Thanos poster has been “alpha-male”-ified and the joker is a cringe incel reference. The fact you don’t know is a good thing.

        • Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)

          That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.

          And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.

          • @hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            72 days ago

            I think even calling Phoenix’s Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I’ve also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn’t really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way

            • @aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
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              This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it’s because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect

            • I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)

              Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.

          • @Zetta@mander.xyz
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            I don’t think the joker hated women at all in Joker. As far as I remember his attitude to both genders is the same.

        • Incels scorn society and the world for making them ugly, no powerful jawline, no American Pie sex adventures in high school, and no nice suits to wear to their minimum wage jobs. To incels, they are the forgotten scum of the earth.

          Well, The Joker is a film about an abused, poor, and lonely comedian getting his face kicked in by teenagers about a month before rising up, killing a late night tv host, and vengefully breaking Society down into chaos and misery.

          So, they just think The Joker makes them look cool. That’s really it. Every time they think about shooting up an elementary school, they also think about Arthur Fleck gunning down Murray Franklin.

        • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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          The movie itself isn’t a problem, But the kind of person that fancies the joker and Thanos *as role models are. It’s one thing to appreciate the dark side it’s another to idolize it.

          The movies aren’t the problem.