Well, your last example kind of falls apart, you do have electric collars and they do work well, they just have to be complimentary to positive enforcement (snacks usually) but I get your point :)
Shock collars are awful for a lot of training. It’s the equivalent to your boss stabbing you in the arm with a compass every time you make a mistake. Would it work, yes. It would also cause merry hell for staff retention. As well as the risk of someone going postal on them.
I highly disagree, some dogs are too reactive for or reacy badly to other methods. You also compare it to something painful when in reality 90% of the time it does not hurt the animal when used correctly.
As the owner of a reactive dog, I disagree. It takes longer to overcome, but gives far better results.
I also put vibration collars and shock collars in 2 very different categories. A vibration collar is intended to alert the dog, in an unambiguous manner, that they need to do something. A shock collar is intended to provide an immediate, powerfully negative feedback signal.
Both are known as “shock collars” but they work in very different ways.
As the owner of a reactive dog I disagree with you. If you consider shock collars to be “powerfully negative feedback” you either never used one or used it improperly. My dog is absolutely far happier since I moved to a shock collar. Using it correctly can help a reactive dog actually avoid a lot of pain and suffering (both physically and emotionally)
To be clear, it can cause a lot of pain, but when used correctly you should rearly if ever reach those levels, and on the lower levels it does not cause any pain, instead it causes the muscles to flex causing an uncomfortable but not painful feeling. I used it on myself multiple times before even trying it on my dog, so this is not a guess.
Well, your last example kind of falls apart, you do have electric collars and they do work well, they just have to be complimentary to positive enforcement (snacks usually) but I get your point :)
Shock collars are awful for a lot of training. It’s the equivalent to your boss stabbing you in the arm with a compass every time you make a mistake. Would it work, yes. It would also cause merry hell for staff retention. As well as the risk of someone going postal on them.
I highly disagree, some dogs are too reactive for or reacy badly to other methods. You also compare it to something painful when in reality 90% of the time it does not hurt the animal when used correctly.
As the owner of a reactive dog, I disagree. It takes longer to overcome, but gives far better results.
I also put vibration collars and shock collars in 2 very different categories. A vibration collar is intended to alert the dog, in an unambiguous manner, that they need to do something. A shock collar is intended to provide an immediate, powerfully negative feedback signal.
Both are known as “shock collars” but they work in very different ways.
As the owner of a reactive dog I disagree with you. If you consider shock collars to be “powerfully negative feedback” you either never used one or used it improperly. My dog is absolutely far happier since I moved to a shock collar. Using it correctly can help a reactive dog actually avoid a lot of pain and suffering (both physically and emotionally)
To be clear, it can cause a lot of pain, but when used correctly you should rearly if ever reach those levels, and on the lower levels it does not cause any pain, instead it causes the muscles to flex causing an uncomfortable but not painful feeling. I used it on myself multiple times before even trying it on my dog, so this is not a guess.