I have avoided AI (LLMS) because it didn’t seem nearly useful enough to warrant supporting these tech assholes. Is there anyway to use it locally on a normal device (16 Gb ram, 8 year old Geforce graphics, etc?). Can I just slow it down and get it to work locally?


Sure, there are open-weight models and many of them are very usable on quite limited hardware, some can even run on phones which is ridiculous. Don’t expect paid-service-level speed or abilities or even free-tier of those same services where it’s running on datacenter hardware, but running locally on reasonable consumer hardware it’s certainly possible to get close to that, at least sometimes, in some situations. YMMV depending on your configuration and your needs. Most of the good open-weight models are in fact originally released by billionaire asshole companies who have the resources to actually put down these foundations (but a lot of the best open-weight releases are coming from China, which is its own sort of concern), but how and why they get released is not really the important part for us because once they’re released, they’re released forever and people can take them and adjust them and re-train them for all kinds of different purposes. You just have to be aware of where they came from. On their own, they do not read your disk or phone home (they are not capable of it without an external client enabling and allowing them to use tools at all). They are just text input, and text output (or images/audio input using mmproj techniques, or stable diffusion for image/audio generation, those are totally different cans of worms and outside the scope of this, but it can be done) They’re ultimately just text generators, but some of them are trained to general particular formats of text that tell an external software when it should try to use tools.
Personally, I found ollama the easiest way to get started, but I’m sort of a minimalist and started out very casual (and in some ways still am). Another place that looked nice to start out with was the desktop application “Jan”. OpenWebUI was relentlessly recommended to me but I found it a bit buggy and unnecessarily resource intensive and ultimately dropped it. I tried Librechat also and it was a little better but ultimately I had pretty similar problems with it. (A lot of stuff in the AI field is vibe-coded slopware, and it really shows sometimes, be warned and be aware) Capek is a very minimal alternative web chat frontend that I’ve kind of settled on personally. I find minimalism is the best way I can think of to avoid all the feature-bloated insecure AI slop. I don’t know if it’s actually helping or a good strategy, but it’s the strategy I’ve chosen.
Technically yes, but pushed too far it slows down dramatically to the point of not really being useful anymore, unless you’re careful about how you do it. Key things to look for:
Hope that helps, have fun, be safe!
Is this answer AI-generated?
Good question, and succinct, so I’ll offer a more concise answer for you than have for other commenters:
No, this answer is not AI-generated.
Well, maybe in a sense it is, if you want to be pedantic about it. (I enjoy being pedantic sometimes, it’s your choice though)
Edit: Also I am literally incapable of typing out a link without screwing it up somehow and having to edit it. Also I’m usually incapable of being concise. And that’s why this comment keeps growing. Oh well.
It was a very simple yes or no question. It doesn’t help that you replied exactly how an LLM would reply to a yes or no question.
Well, I was certainly having a little bit of fun with it, but it’s rapidly becoming less fun. Are you sure that is really exactly how an LLM would reply? Because I’m pretty sure it’s really fucking not. But you can make up your own mind and believe what you want. I don’t get a trophy for convincing you, and I’m rapidly running out of interest in being reasonable about it. Beep boop, returning to sleep mode, deactivating keyboard simulator, goodbye fellow humans.
Nah, it’s similar to how I write. Probably just an autistic tech nerd like the rest of us XD
That’s affirmative, my fellow and much appreciated autist. o7
It’s absolutely human. Do you see every wall of text and assume LLM?
Nope, but I was also curious, given the context for this wall of text in particular.
That’s fair. It is, in a sense, AI-generated, as I would’ve had no way of learning all these details without actually teaching myself and using AI locally, in actual practice. It required significant AI usage to develop this information and many tokens were burned figuring out this wisdom. But I don’t generally let clankers put words in my mouth. I share it because I care about my fellow humans on this planet, I don’t see a way of putting the genie back into the bottle, and I care about not living in an oppressive capitalist dystopia where access to any meaningful knowledge or information requires the active and ongoing consent of trillionaires. I reject that reality and substitute my own.
That’s not how reality works, and it’s very concerning to see someone who thinks this way relying so heavily on LLMs to “teach” them things.
Seems like a really bad way to learn something.
It was a joke, originally from Dr. Who, made into pop culture by Mythbusters. And to be clear, I don’t use LLMs to teach me things in general, I only use them to teach me things about LLMs themselves, by assessing how they work and judging what they say. I am not just literally slack-jawed and consuming their output as if it was bonafide truth or a substitute for independent research and curiosity. But I appreciate your concern for my well-being.
How do you know it’s human?
It is a mystery, we shall never know for certain. I am a meat popsicle, for the record, but have no way of verifying that across this vast series of tubes we call the Internet.
Can you recommend one I could use as a personal assistant?
Hermes Agent with DS4.1flash or something cheap like that. If you aren’t coding, you don’t need much of a model to run it.