Is it still viable to use Signal for privacy in 2026? It’s centralized, and has had many suspicious occurrences in the past.(Unopen source server code, careless whisper exploit which is still active as far as I know, and the whole mobile coin situation.)

Thoughts?

  • Dessalines
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    116 hours ago

    PRODUCT PITCH: Hey everyone, I have a great idea for a secure / private messaging service.

    It’s hosted in the US, subject to its pervasive spying laws including national security letters.

    Also I need all your phone numbers.

    Also no you can’t host this yourself, I run the only server.


    Everyone who uses signal and supports it, is falling for this pitch.

    Why not signal?

    • Voxel
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      Everyone who uses signal and supports it, is falling for this pitch.

      No, because it does not reflect the truth. You’ve to see the full picture.

      • Dessalines
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        01 hour ago

        The full picture is that Signal has the most important piece of information you can give anyone online: your phone number (which means your real name and current address). Also that they’re hosted in the US and have close links to the US defense industry.

        • Otter
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          141 minutes ago

          Did you mean to link a different article, that one doesn’t say anything about defense industry ties (from my quick skim). It does talk about how phone numbers are no longer required when connecting to someone else.

          Signal DOES have my phone number, but they can’t tell my government anything other than

          • yes I use Signal
          • yes I connected to it today

          This becomes even less important as the platform gets popular. I know some friends who work in healthcare that report that they’re switching to Signal (and WhatsApp unfortunately) as an alternative to texting/phone calls for staff/department group chats and non-patient related communications.

          • Dessalines
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            123 minutes ago

            Signal DOES have my phone number but they can’t tell my government anything other than yes I use Signal yes I connected to it today

            This is incorrect. They also have your full name and address by extension, as well as those of everyone you communicate with.

            They’re also subject to national security letters, meaning the US state can get that info without a warrant.

            Just read the first article I posted, it gets into all this.

            The 2nd article is the signal CEO Meredith Whitaker interviewing with lawfare, which is a US defense industry think-tank.

      • Dessalines
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        11 hour ago

        People are not as stupid as these large centralized sites like signal keep telling you they are. Ppl figured out how to make accounts on different services, forums, and platforms since the internet began. It is no more difficult to make a matrix account, or install simpleX than it is anything else. My partner and I figured out simplex within 10 minutes.