• missingno
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    15110 days ago

    Outside, hopefully.

    Snark aside, 4chan was once hugely influential to internet culture and humor, but that era was long, long, long ago. When 4chan became the breeding ground for the alt-right, that thoroughly infected the site so badly that everyone else was driven off. There is nothing of value left on that site, and its death is a net positive for the world.

    Of course other imageboards still exist, but I don’t think any of them will ever be as big as 4chan was. I hope that none of them become that big.

    • @yarr@feddit.nlOP
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      2510 days ago

      One of the functions it served was containment… now picture everyone on there spread out on the open net.

      • Containment was a myth. They’ve been everywhere else the whole time. They’re just forced to keep quiet on sites with moderation. This is only positive

      • missingno
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        4110 days ago

        As I said in another comment below

        ‘Containment’ doesn’t work. That was the reason /pol/ was created, but all that did was rapidly radicalize the userbase, which then spread back to the other boards.

        Giving them a dedicated space to radicalize people doesn’t mean that the people who get radicalized will never leave that space. Because not only did it spread back to the other boards, it spread outside 4chan. The rise of the alt-right can be directly traced back to Steve Bannon recognizing 4chan as the ideal target to start radicalizing users there. And now look at where the alt-right is today. It’s not an exaggeration to say that this is a large part of how we got Trump.

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2310 days ago

      I was very into /b/ from 2003-2009. It was extremely impactful in my formative years.

      I’m glad I left when I did.

      • @DoubleDongle@lemmy.world
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        139 days ago

        '09 was the year the right-wing postbots took over. It was a good time to leave. It’s also the year after Paul Manafort received millions of dollars from a Russian oligarch to promote Russian interests in the West, and the same year the Tea Party was formed.

        Paul Manafort was also on Trump’s top campaign staff in 2016.

    • djsoren19
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      1510 days ago

      Even if it is over a decade late, we should pour one out for old 4chan. It was never a great place, but what happened to it is a huge shame. If this really is the death knell, I wanna remember it as the weird anarchic slice of the Internet it was, rather than the Nazi bar it got turned into.

    • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      410 days ago

      I think 4chan had been largely superceded by reddit as the min meme source. And now tiktok et al is largely superseding reddit as reddit continues going to shit.

      • missingno
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        29 days ago

        I would say that 4chan’s influence is of negative value. Thankfully, that influence is gone now.

  • @rustyfish@lemmy.world
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    6210 days ago

    4chan died over a decade ago. What has been nuked there was its rotting carcass plastered with Nazi and MAGA shit.

    It should never return.

  • Admiral Patrick
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    5310 days ago

    A deadly blow?

    I hope so.

    Will a copycat spring up?

    History says yes, but if a loving god truly exists, one won’t.

    Where are the users going in the meantime?

    Hopefully outside.

    Does any of this really matter?

    Only if they bring their bullshit to the fediverse.

    • Theo
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      1410 days ago

      I think Lemmy is easier to manage getting rid of any BS. Even if they do bring BS to Lemmy, they won’t last.

      • Admiral Patrick
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        610 days ago

        If they do, hopefully they flock to a single instance which is easily blockable

        • Theo
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          210 days ago

          That was what I was going to say. Then, we can isolate them. Or any community that tries to corrupt Lemmy like reddit.

    • @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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      810 days ago

      History says yes, but if a loving god truly exists, one won’t.

      Trump is president. Clearly there is no loving god.

  • @Asidonhopo@lemmy.world
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    3010 days ago

    I know it’s a tiny minority of their culture over there but I will miss seeing screenshots of their wholesome/poignant greentexts. I hope some of those robots move on and turn out ok

  • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    1010 days ago

    Why would it go away completely? Why wouldn’t they plug the hack and continue on as they were before? Getting hacked doesn’t typically kill a service unless there was data deleted and no recovery option available.

    • missingno
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      1310 days ago

      It’s unclear if they even can plug the many security vulnerabilities that are now public information. The leaked source code reveals that the site hasn’t been updated at all since the new owner took over.

    • drkt
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      1010 days ago

      The current owner is not and has not ever been interested in maintaining it. He bought it to squeeze it of its worth and now that it’s suddenly going to cost a lot of money to bring back he probably just won’t.

      • Bilb!
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        610 days ago

        That does leave the possibility of selling it to someone who does want to restore it.

    • Admiral Patrick
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      910 days ago

      My understanding from the articles I read is that the whole platform ran on PHP 5.5, and porting from a version that old to current is no small task.

    • @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      59 days ago

      One possible reason I’ve read is that the people moderating it have had their identities leaked, so imagine being the person responsible for banning 4chan users and now also they know who you are, seems like a very unappealing thing to volunteer for.

    • They would need to rewrite it again, the release source code showed about of security flaws. If they’re just re upped it again it would be taken down by someone the sake day.

  • @IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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    1010 days ago

    Aren’t there similar websites like 8chan that serve the same purpose? I may be out of the loop but won’t they migrate there?